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Off the Page: Paul Auster
With Paul Auster
Novelist
Tuesday, December 16, 2003; 1:00 PM
The inventiveness of Paul Auster is obvious from his characters alone: a dog
who is the protagonist in Timbuktu, the boy who can walk on air in Mr.
Vertigo. His work is whimsical, comic, and a bit dark as well.
His new novel, his twelfth, called Oracle Night, tells the story of a
novelist, recovering from a near-fatal illness, who discovers a notebook. As
he writes in the blank book, odd events begin to take place.
Paul Auster was online Tuesday, Dec. 16 to talk about his work. The
transcript follows.
Host Carole Burns, a news producer at washingtonpost.com, is also a fiction
writer with short stories published or upcoming in Washingtonian Magazine
and several literary journals. Twice a fellow at The MacDowell Colony, she's
at work on a novel.
Editor's Note: Washingtonpost.com moderators retain editorial control over
Live Online discussions and choose the most relevant questions for guests
and hosts; guests and hosts can decline to answer questions.
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Carole Burns: Hello booklovers, Welcome to "Off the Page" and welcome to
Paul Auster, whose latest novel, Oracle Night, was just released (and is
slated to be reviewed by Michael Dirda in Book World this Sunday.) We have a
geographical diverse group of questioners today, and let's get to them.
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Harrisburg, Pa.: It is great to see writing with skillful comedic touches.
That is a difficult type of writing to do well. How do you approach adding
humor to your work? Do you have a conscious plan in developing humor in your
writing, or do you, say, simply write what you yourself find funny?
Paul Auster: Life is both funny and not funny. It has its tragic moments and
its hilarious moments. I try in my work to embrace all aspects of what it
means to be alive, and humor is an important part of that. So even in some
of my grimmest works, there have been comic touches. There have to be,
because that's the way we're built as human beings, and often when we're in
dark circumstances we survive them by cracking jokes.

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Kassel, Germany: First I'd like to thank you for making me more aware of
life by writing unforgettable novels like City of Glass and Oracle Night.
Strange things keep happening to me while reading your novels. Last summer,
for example, I was standing under the Eiffel Tower in Paris when a huge
screw fell down just some feet away from me. It could have killed me, just
like the gargoyle almost did to Nick in Oracle Night. Well, I didn't start a
new life after that, but it kind of changed my life.
So, do you think it could be that books have an equally mysterious influence
on people like the blue notebook?
Paul Auster: I think it can happen. I tend not to be a mystic. I tend not to
believe in magic. But it's undeniable that weird things happen in the world
all the time, and one has the feeling that books can sometimes provoke these
events. The story that is told by Trause to Sidney toward the end of the
novel, Oracle Night, is a true story. I didn't put in the name of the
writer, but the facts as I know them are very, very close to what's in the
novel. A man wrote a narrative poem about a drowning child, and not long
after the book was published, his own child drowns. Now of course, as Sidney
responds initially, it's just a terrible, terrible coincidence. At the same
time, in a state of grief and wretchedness, it's perfectly understandable
that the writer would make a connection between the book and the death of
his child.
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Carole Burns: It struck me when reading Oracle Night that it might not be
the notebook that disrupts Sidney Orr's life, but the act of writing in it.
Is writing a dangerous activity?
Paul Auster: It can be. It can be very bad for one's mental health. It looks
innocent enough from the outside, but when a man or a woman is living every
day in an imaginary world, it's often difficult to separate your own reality
from the imaginary reality you're writing about. But no, I don't really
believe that the book has any magic property. It's simply that Sidney at
times believes that it does. But of course, everything that's happening in
the book is very subjective. Sidney is telling the story of his life and
also his inner life. And that life is in turmoil during the days that he's
writing about in 1982.
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Helsingborg, Sweden: Dear Mr. Auster,
I'm an American living in Sweden and I work as a teacher, writer, and
translator. Do you have any suggestions for how to maintain the writer's
voice when translating, especially if the writer has a significantly
different writing style than you do? Also, do you think a translator of
literary works must also be a creative writer himself?
Thank you very much for your time and consideration. And thank you, also,
for your wonderful contributions to literature.
Paul Auster: Thank you for saying such nice things.

Having translated myself for many years, I felt that your primary job is to
give yourself up to the writer you're translating. You have to try to become
that person, in a way. To think like that person. To write like that person.
It's a creative act, almost like embodying a role in a play. So your
particular style as a writer has nothing to do with what your style will be
as a translator, because you're serving the text written by the other
person.

You don't have to be a creative writer to be a translator, because
translation itself is a creative act. The very fact that you're doing it
makes you a creative writer--you are by definition a creative writer, even
though the work is not originally yours. Bringing it into another language
requires all the skill, all the poetic gifts, that any novelist or poet
needs to write his work. In fact, some of the very best translators only
translate.
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Sacramento, CA: In a recent chat Martin Amis said that the humor novel would
be dead in twenty years because there is a butt to every joke and the
culture just won't stand for that much longer. On the other hand,
Aristophanes has been packing them in for several years. Do you foresee
today's comedy becoming as dated as, say, Tex Avery cartoons are now?
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Paul Auster: Humor is eternal. Comedy is eternal. And no matter what the
circumstances of a particular moment, there are always going to be people
making jokes about what is happening. Styles of humor change over the years,
but to say that humor in general would die would be like saying the human
race is going to die.
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Tel-Aviv, Israel: Fate and Coincidence play a large role in your books. Is
it something derives from your personal life?
Paul Auster: I have in my non-fiction recorded some of the wilder, more
unsettling coincidences that have occurred in my own life. At times in my
fiction, similar kinds of events take place. But I don't believe in the idea
of fate. I don't believe that our destinies are mapped out in advance. We
create our lives every day, and they're constantly shifting, and each one of
us, I think ,has the potential to live many, many different lives. And
circumstances, coincidence, accidents and choice and desire and will all
play their part in the paths we take. But I don't believe that these paths
are preordained. Life would be terrible if we thought that were true.
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Fresno, Calif.: I noticed a reference to Wittgenstein in The Book of
Illusions, where Zimmer remarks that Wittgenstein is his sort of thinker, or
words to that effect. While one should not assume that Zimmer=Auster, do you
draw anything from Wittgenstein's work? If so, the earlier or the later?
Many thanks.
Paul Auster: As the young student at Columbia in the '60s, I read
Wittgenstein's work very carefully and very avidly. I didn't always fully
understand it. But I was always intrigued and inspired by it. Definitely the
later work interests me more than the early work, particularly the
philosophical investigations. At one point, as I was writing City of Glass
many years ago, I was considering using a phrase from Wittgenstein's Zettel
as an epigraph for the book. The sentence is this: And it also means
something to speak of "living in the pages of a book."
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NYC: I was wondering if you'd read fellow Brooklynite Jonathan Lethem's new
novel "Fortress of Solitude." It basically lives off of the author's
experiences growing up in the borough, and I was curious as to how being a
Brooklynite affects your writing.
Paul Auster: I wrote before I ever moved to Brooklyn, and I've continued to
write ever since I've been here, which is now almost 24 years. It's my
place. It's this little spot on earth that I inhabit. And because I'm
surrounded by it every day, it's only natural that I'd want to write about
it at times, which I've done. But it's not the only subject that interests
me.
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Lenexa, Kan.: Mr. Auster: I've read four of your novels but so far only
reviews of your latest. I especially enjoyed "The Music of Chance"--a bad
poker night and its aftermath. I really enjoyed Durning and Walsh in the
movie version. I'm also a big fan of the film "Smoke".
Two questions: Are there any plans to film "Vertigo"? Are you a fan of
Millhauser's writing? Thanks.
Paul Auster: There are no plans to make a film out of Mr. Vertigo. And
Millhauser is a writer I admire--I've read several of his books and I've
liked them all.
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Washington, D.C.: Love your work. Just actually finished reading the New
York Trilogy. I was wondering, who are some of the authors that you feel
have most influenced your writing? Also, who are some of your favorite
authors writing fiction these days?
Thanks.
Paul Auster: The list is too long to enumerate today, but I'll give a few
names. Montaigne, Shakespeare, Cervantes, Dickens, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy,
Hawthorne, Melville, Thoreau, Kafka, Beckett, Joyce, Celine, Fitzgerald,
Faulkner, etc.

These days, in the United States, I'm very fond of Don DeLillo's work.
Robert Coover, Marquez, Kundera.
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Toronto, Ontario: Thank you for Oracle Night - I just read it and enjoyed it
very much.
Do you have any plans to visit Toronto, in the near future? We would very
much like to see you here, but I haven't heard about any planned
appearances...
Paul Auster: I do know I'm not going to Toronto any time soon, but I will be
in Montreal on March 31. I'm getting some kind of prize up there, at a
festival called the Blue Metropolis. Every year they've given the literary
Grand Priz and this year they're giving it to me.

Other travels: In May I'm going to a few places in Europe--London and Berlin
and Amsterdam. And then in the summer, Brazil, for the first time.

I'm reading in Washington on Jan. 13 (I think at Politics and Prose) and
later in January I'm reading in Boston. I've done the New York reading--I
read the entire contents of Oracle Night over two nights at the Paula Cooper
Gallery in Chelsea, in the middle of the blizzard. It was an exhausting but
invigorating experience for everyone, myself included.

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Tel-Aviv, Israel: Mr. Auster, I have read almost all your books in
translation to Hebrew although I am capable of reading them in English. Is
it your opinion as a both writer and translator, possible for a translation
to be superior to the original?
Paul Auster: Yes, it's possible, but only when the original work is badly
written. If you can read in English, I think you'll have a more enjoyable
experience tackling the book in the original.
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San Francisco, CA: Mr. Auster-
First off, let me say that "The Book of Illusions" and "Oracle Night" are
two of the most amazing books I have ever read. Thank you for them!
As a young reader, I became aware of you and your writing when Don DeLillo
dedicated "Cosmopolis" to you... I figured if my all time favorite author
liked you, I should check you out!; Boy, am I glad I did.
So, how does it feel to have a book by DeLillo dedicated to you?
Cheers!;
Paul Auster: I was extremely touched. Don is a very close friend of mine,
but I didn't know that he was dedicating the book to me until I received a
copy of the bound galleys. As they often do, when I get a new book in my
hands, I flip through at random. So I didn't see the dedication page until
I'd been looking at the book for a few minutes, which somehow made it a
double shock. But in 1992, I dedicated one of my novels, Leviathan, to Don.
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Carole Burns: Your work is so strong on story, and yet they are also novels
of ideas. Which aspect of your novels comes to you first? How do the ideas
and the stories evolve?
Paul Auster: It's always the story. The story first and last. And the
stories come to me out of my unconscious. I never look for them. They find
me. And I'm not consciously writing about so-called ideas, but the thoughts
and ideas of the characters become crucial to the telling of the story.
Sometimes you start with something, and then the more you explore it, the
more ramifications you discover in the image or the events. But I rarely
know exactly what I'm doing. I don't work from a prearranged outline. I have
a general sense of the shape of the story, who the characters are, and a
sense of the beginning, the middle and the end, and yet once I start to
write, things begin to change quite rapidly, and I've never written a book
that ended up the way I thought it would be when I started. For me, I find
the book in the process of writing it. Which makes it a great adventure. If
it's all mapped out in advance, there's nothing to discover. It's happened
to me that I've thought of stories so much and for such a long time that by
the time I sit down to try to write them, they're already dead, and I feel
like I don't want to write them, because I know them too well. And it's the
not knowing that makes it exciting.
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Williamsburg, Va.: I selected Book of Illusions for a local book group, and
got a wide variety of responses to it - I loved it, but was in the distinct
minority. If you had the chance to talk to a new Auster reader and tell them
why they should read you, what would you say?
Paul Auster: I would never tell anyone to read my books. It's not my job to
do that. But all my life as a writer, I've had very disparate responses,
contradictory responses, to the work I do. Some people love it, and other
people simply despite it. I get the best reviews and the worst reviews of
any writer I know, and there's nothing, nothing in the world I can do about
it. I would of course prefer that everyone love what I do, but I've been
doing this work long enough to know that that's never going to happen. But
I'm very happy that you enjoyed it.
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Alex, VA: Thanks for doing this chat. Is this sort of "publicity" fun or
torture? Would you rather just be able to write and stay locked away
somewhere? I am so intrigued by the descriptions of your work. I would not
have heard about your books without this. Thanks for your time.
Paul Auster: I would prefer not to say a word to anybody. But I do feel an
obligation to my publisher to cooperate on a small scale in helping to
present the book to the public. But I try to keep it to the absolute
minimum.
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Kassel, Germany: Dear Mr. Auster, I guess you read a lot while not writing.
What is the last novel you read? Any recommendations?
Would you consider yourself as a postmodernist writer? What's your opinion
about comparisons between you and authors like Thomas Pynchon and John
Barth?
Paul Auster: The last novel I read is the new translation into English of
Don Quixote, by Edith Grossman, which I enjoyed very much. Don Quixote is
probably my favorite novel of all time, and I've read it at least five
times.

As for the postmodern question, it's a term that doesn't mean anything to
me. People keep using it, but I truly don't understand what it means. And I
don't put label on what I do. If other people want to do that, that's their
privilege, but I'm not interested in looking at myself from the outside.

I admire both Pynchon and Barth, but I don't feel my work has very much to
do with theirs.
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Carole Burns: Thanks so much, Paul, for coming online today, and to everyone
from around the world who submitted questions. Look for Book World's review
of Oracle Night this weekend.